Beatles Ren Minst 725

 

I have received the following information from a Japanese collector regarding this title:

725 BEATLES – RENAISSANCE MINSTRELS I (1st press RENAISSANCE RECORDS I labels)
Matrix ; 725 A / 725 B 

However, showing 729 on the label, as seen here. Why 729 when the previous WCF release (Leon Russell) was # 724? Someone obviously made a mistake.

Beatles RM I 729 lbl

 

*2nd press: Plain white label
Matrix : 728 SIDE I / 728 SIDE II

Beatles Ren Minst 725 lbl

Beatles Ren Minst 725 det

For the date, it all depends on who was the originator of this series, WCF or Dub & Ken.

The TMOQ wiki states:

71025 – Beatles – Renaissance Minstrels – September 1971 – Renaissance Records labels (“Homogenized Stereo”) – RR – 1002 (matrix)

What puzzles me a bit is that they had not done a title label since Blueberry Hill and now after almost one year they went back to creating one? On the other hand, Beatlegmania Vol. Two states that Renaissance Minstrels II (WCF # 726) was a copy of TMOQ’s Homogenized Beatles 71026 and the pressings differ in the tell-tale areas, so there is little doubt that is correct.

In addition, is “Homogenized Stereo” (I assume that’s what it is supposed to say on the original TMOQ label) really correct? Isn’t it supposed to be “Renaissance Live” as shown here?

But where is the TMOQ-typical ‘deep groove’ in the label area above? This does not look like a TMOQ pressing to me. I have looked at a lot of different versions of this title – and there were a ton – but apart from the large 1/2 label with outer border and the pig-branded later ones, I have found no labels that fit the description of the TMOQ wiki.

To complete the picture, here is the cover that came with the green label:

If you can answer these questions, please leave a comment, thanks.

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Here is the folder cover reissue with a blank white label, made ca. 1973/’74 – I currently do not know the matrix #’s:

Ren Mistr RE

Ren Minstr RE b

 

 

 

 

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Russell Anaheim

Russell Anaheim 2

I don’t recall too many bootleg inserts/covers showing an official release – in this case his May 1971 release Leon Russell And The Shelter People but they obviously did not want to put a hole in this beautiful image they had selected.

Russell Anaheim lbl

 

Matrix: 725A /  725 B X

 

USA: Last quarter of 1971 / 1972

A copy of sides 3 & 4 of Rubber Dubber’s at anaheim 12-11-70 (70-010) with its pop art cover design:

 

 

 

John E Russell L

John E Russell L b

John E Russell L inner

Inside of the gatefold

John E Russell L lbl 2

John E Russell L lbl 4

 

 

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‘TMOQ mk2’, i.e. Ken (due to the 4-digit matrix, here 1859 A/B) would later release their own version as well, making it the fourth title “borrowed” from a Rubber Dubber original, following their copies of the Rolling Stones – European Tour 1970, Jimi Hendrix –  Live At the Los Angeles Forum and Neil Young – Los Angeles Music Center – June 1971 :

Russel L Oakie from Tulsa

Shown here in what appears to be a first pressing, ca. 2nd half of 1972. It exists in many different cardboard & vinyl color and label variations.

 

 

Russell L TMoSaTime

Rusell L TMoSaT b

Russell MoSaT

WCF’s earliest ‘wrap-around’ insert?

Russell L TMoSaT alt ins lbl

Also exists with the following rarer insert:

Russell L TMoSaT alt ins 2

 

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For comparison, this is the label of the original Zerocks Records 1971 release:

Russell MoSaT lbl

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USA: Last quarter of 1971 or 1972 (for the WCF copy)

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Russell L RLfaEBC

Russell L RLfaEBC lbl

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And the Keylo/TMOQ original label:

Russell L RLfaEB yel lbl

 

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USA: 1972 (again, for the WCF copy not the Keylo original, I wish I had an approximate release date for that one though like I have for the ‘TMOQ mk 1’ releases)

Did the fine folks at WCF know and/or care that both originals contained the same material (where they overlapped)?

Source: Leon Russell & Session – Homewood Session, Vine Street Theatre, Hollywood, CA – was originally broadcast on December 5, 1970 on KCET TV Los Angeles

One of 1971’s bootleg favorite, review it here <—- link, including the full broadcast for your viewing pleasure.

 

Speaking of Kustom Records (as mentioned in my previous post) … a holiday present to us all (thank you, Karl!).

 

I guess the transmission date is 8th of April’71, after all.

The concert Peter Grant’s talking about was Led Zeppelin’s appearance at Munich’s Circus Krone on 08 March 1970 (no recording has ever appeared of this concert).

It feels like we are watching the moment Pink Floyd’s hatred for bootlegs started.It’s quite remarkable that what is likely their first encounter with one of their bootlegs was the incredibly rare Pinky, pressed in a first pressing run of just 50 copies (matrix: DJ3003),

Pink Floyd Pinky

a UK copy of this Dutch release:

Pink Floyd Big Pink LIFE

 

Matrix: XA44332/YB44332 – first edition with the misspelling “LIFE” on both sides. Second & third corrections had “LIVE/LIFE” and finally “LIVE/LIVE” on front and back.

Pink Floyd Big Pink lbl 2

“Atom Heart Mother” on side 1 and “Embryo” and “Interstellar Overdrive” on side 2, recorded at the Audimax in Hamburg 1970-03-12

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Re. Kustom Records: This is the US cover for the Beatles pirate JUDY

Beatles Judy

Beatles Judy b

It’s preposterous to claim these tracks were copied directly from the original masters from the Abbey Road vault, as the BBC reporter sets up the story and Mr. Collins willingly indulges him (although the claim may of course originated with him).

I still believe that Kustom was mostly a US label and they were only to happy to sell Collins a few hundred records and he had his own b&w knock off covers printed based on the original designs.

Beatles LaShea Kustom

Hendrix Goodbye Jimi blu

Hendrix Goodbye Jimi lbl

Hendrix Goodbye Jimi gree

Also exists with red&white and b&w inserts.

Hendrix Goodbye Jimi gree wh lbl

USA: 2nd half of 1971 to early ’72

 

Sources:

Hendrix Goodbye Jimi det

The Infromthestorm site states: “BBC Sessions, London 1967 / […] / Atwood Hall, Clark University, Worcester, MA 15.03.68; 2nd Show / “Happening For Lulu”, BBC TV Centre, London 04.01.69″

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The Kustom Records US copy, # 005, released between late 1970 and April of ’71:

Hendrix Goodbye Jimi KR

 

Hendrix Goodbye Jimi lbl

Kustom Records still confuses me a bit. It’s almost as if they were active on both sides of the Atlantic simultaneously (A Jeffrey Collins can be seen in a BBC report from 1971, stating he imports the discs from the USA and sleeves are added in the UK).

This particular release looks like a US release to me, compared to their European ones, which had printed covers, and was only sold by US-based sellers on eBay.

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The UK original live experience 1967 – 68 (‘VOODOO CHILE’), matrix: JHBL A1 / JBHL B :

Hendrix LEX

 

Hendrix l e 67-68 lbl 1

It came with a leaflet that Kustom Records (and Berkeley) would use for their inserts.

 

This unauthorized UK release received quite a bit of flak in the mainstream press, likely helping prompt a good deal of financial concern and the BBC report shown below.

Hendrix Row

Above: Melody Maker, UK, 12/1970 – below: Billboard magazine, US, 26 November 1970:

Hendrix 67-68 Billboard

In April 1971, Billboard reports that 13,944 copies were pressed.

 

 

Finally, the (velvet) hammer came down – from Melody Maker, April 3rd, ’71:

crunch bootleggers

We know from the BBC report that Jeffrey Collins imported Kustom Records discs without covers from the US and it seems obvious that he passed Kustom a copy of the UK bootleg, which then ended up as their release # 005, shown above.

However, in the end it was all for naught:

Hendrix One bootleg LP

[thanks to jimihendrixcollector.com for some of these articles!]

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Also copied by TMOQ in the US and released around June of 1971 as 71019 (matrix: JH107A/B):

Hendrix Broadcasts purple disc I

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CBM copied part of Kustom’s insert for their first version of their RAINBOW BRIDGE release (# 3213) from 1972:

Hendrix Rainbow Bridge CBM

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Patti Smith and a copy of Goodbye, Jimi:

Patti Smith GB Jimi

 

 

 

Procol Harum The Elusive

Procol Harum The Elusive 718

Procol Harum The Elusive det

 

USA: 1971/2

Pressed in larger quantities than the preceding three titles in WCF’s 700 series.

Source:  WPLJ-FM radio broadcast from the A&R Studios in New York, 12 April 1971 during their North American tour. The date confirms my placing of the 700 series in the months between mid-1971 to early 1972.

Unfortunately, this pressing did not come out well, only earning a “Gm” rating in HOTWACKS “with the exception of ‘Fare Thee Well’, which is very poor.”.  HOTWACKS continues that this is also available on CBM 718 “from original plates”. I have never seen the CBM copy and without having compared the matrices, I would not make this claim and suggestion that there was a relationship between the two labels (other than CBM copying several of WCF’s titles, as we have seen so far).  Previously, we saw another case of identical matrix numbers for their respective copies of Led Zeppelin’s Blueberry Hill.

The correct track list is:

1 Memorial Drive
2 Still There’ll be more
3 Nothing that I didn’t know
4 Simple Sister
5 Luskus Delph
6 Shine On Brightly
7 Whaling Stories
8 Broken Barricades
9 Juicy John Pink
10 A Salty Dog
11 Whisky Train
12 Power Failure

Gary Brooker (voice & piano)
Chris Copping (Hammond organ, bass)
Robin Trower (guitar, bass)
BJ Wilson (drums)

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TMOQ later released a significant quality upgrade of the first 10 tracks with the matrix # 1844 A/B. The four digit TMOQ titles are seen as Ken’s part of the output following his ouster from TMOQ by Dub and his father.

Procol Harum Shine On Live

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Rolling Stones Stoned Again GT lbl 2

Usually found with a b&w or purple&w insert and with “Good Time”, orange title or blank white labels.

Rolling Stones Stoned Again 3

 

Update: I have since received a comment that calls into question that the orange label version is a real WCF release.

 

USA: 1971

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Around April of 1970, someone created this pirate compilation, as dbboots reports with unusual accuracy, and we have two contenders for the original version:

  1. Stoned Again (by the Rockers)

Not to be mistaken by a Swedish 1970 RS bootleg named Stoned Again as well.

Single album in a white gatefold sleeve, also found with orange labels. Matrix: RS 121-A-1 / RS 122

Rolling Stones Stoned Again gf

Another reported matrix has RS-727 A-7 and RS-722

 

2. “STONED” with the matrix HL-A/B, produced in the Chicago area.

Rolling Stones STONED HL-A 2

 

 

 

Label design copied by WCF, as seen in the second image. The differences in pressing are also clearly visible in this side by side presentation.

The label designer was trying hard to fool those not hip to the Stones while still very much recognizable by their fans and bootleg buyers.

Someone compiled this album using: Their first 45 DECCA F 11675 “Come On / I Want To be Loved” (“Come On” was not listed on WCF’s insert); the B-side of “Paint It Black”, “Long Long While” from 1966; took the version of “Poison Ivy” that was unique to a Saturday Club V.A. UK release (LK 4583); copied another 45: Decca F 11764 / London 45-9641 “I Wanna Be Your Man / Stoned”; grabbed two tracks off of the British EP Decca DFE 8560, “Bye Bye Johnny” & “You Better Move On”. 

Side 2 starts off with their raw take of Barett Strong’s “Money” as recorded on 14 November 1963 at De Lane Lea studios in London from their The Rolling Stones EP (DFE 8560); “I Can’t Be Satisfied” (I could not confirm if this is the same take/from the same recording session as the Rolling Stones No. 2 album) and finally what appears to be four Got Live If You Want It EP tracks: “Everybody Needs Somebody To Love”, “Pain In My Heart”, “I’m Moving On” and “I’m Alright”.  Unlike claimed by HOTWACKS, there were no outtakes on this release.

Rolling Stones gLiywi EP

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While researching the origins of this pirate release I came across this version and thought it might be a ‘lost’ pre-TMOQ release due to a. the sticker similarity with their February 1970 release Donovan – A Gift From the Underground To a Flower – Moonshine Superman sticker version and b. the very TMOQ-like matrix of RS 121/122.

Riolling Stones Stoned Again RS 121

I’ve since been informed that this version likely from the UK as the same type of sticker can be found on UK versions of LiveR Than You’LL Ever Be , Dylan’s Great White Wonder & Isle Of Wight

Dylan GWW UK sticker

Dylan IoW UK sticker

and The Beatles – Kum Back (better quality images needed, please leave a comment if you can provide them):

Beatles Kum Back UK sti

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Later versions of STONED AGAIN include:

STONED AGIN! BY THE ROCKERS  – with a Robert Crumb cartoon cover and two different matrix markings: VAT-1110-A/B (blue insert- white labels) or RS-121/2 (green color insert):

Rolling Stones Stoned Agin!

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and a version released in Japan that copied the WCF insert:

Rolling Stones Stoned Again Japan RV 5004

Rolling Stones Stoned Again Japan RV 5004 lbl

“Blimp Records”and “EV 5004” being nods towards TMOQ’s Led Zeppelin – Live On Blueberry Hill release.

Led Zep BH lbl detail

Also available with what looks like a deluxe cover copied from THE ROLLING STONES UK EP, DFE 8560 or may just be a home made owner job:

Rolling Stones SA Japan del cvr