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Reed L BHMFReed L BHMF disc

This seems to have been the point where the infamous shipping problems started: “150 pressed from the original WRMB plates. Most were lost in shipping. Exm.”

Revisit the complete post for the Sydney recording under this link.

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Pink Floyd 032 ptPink Floyd 032Pink Floyd 032 disc

“Roughly Half of the 200 run were lost in shipment.”

Bootleg background can be found here.

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Flamin Groovies RoxyFlamin Groovies Roxy disc

“Although 200 copies were pressed on blue vinyl, this is an extremely rare record as most of the copies were lost in shipment.”

Bootleg background info to be found here.

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Stewart R Net Wht 034Stewart R Net Wht 034 disc

“150 pressed on MCV & 150 pressed on black vinyl.”

Source: Dayto, OH – Hara Arena – 17 July 1971 [the bands 4th American Tour. And right after the release of their Every Picture Tells A Story album]

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Side 1: Three Button Hand Me Down / Maybe I’m Amazed / Country Comforts / Love In Vain        Side2:  Had Me A Real Good Time-Every Picture Tells A Story / Around The Plynth-An Old Raincoat Won’t Ever Let You Down-Gasoline Alley-Around The Plynth

Quality:  Decent, “Exm, vocals a bit weak”, according to Hot Wacks. The ROOTIE NEWTON ROLL PRESENTATIONS version is listed as “Exs”, probably incorrect.

This album had previously been released by TMOQ as and Dittolino/ROOTIE NEWTON ROLL PRESENTATIONS  #5407 and I suspect it’s a reissue from the TMOQ plates.

Performance was the last and is the rarest of the four TMOQ Rod Stewart & The Faces titles, It was never assigned a 710XX number and is only known by its matrix # 1867.  The other three are # 71016 Plynth, # 71052 Had Me A Real Good Time and # 1817 Dancing In The Street .

Date of release: 1974 based on the closest previous release, a reissue of Dylan’s Troubled Troubadour with four extra tracks not added to the newly created insert (showing images from his 1974 live dates) and with the matrix # 1865 B / D (see final image in this post).

Stewart R & Faces Performance 1867 bluStewart R & Faces Performance 1867 tan

In discussing the TMOQ catalogue dated July 1st 1973, the initiator of the 2006 thread “Homegenizing TMOQ” on recordcollectorsguild.org wrote: “add to the previous booklet the statement “Be sure it’s a genuine “Trade Mark of Quality disc” (Dub’s?). […] Should this booklet be Dubs, according to the “genuine disc” statement, the common believe[sic] that credits the four-figures matrixes 18XX, 28XX to Ken’s records only should be revised.”

Ken: “Until [Dub] went to printed jackets I had everything he had, plus everything I was making. There were a few where I couldn’t get stampers off his mothers, either because the mother was damaged or he’d skipped that part of the process or he didn’t leave the mother at Lewis. Winter Tour and Stones at the Hollywood Palladium come to mind. But I might be wrong about those. In those few cases, my records would have a different stamper number. But for the most part, Lewis pretty much made me whatever I wanted of his.

Dub and I did not do the Greatful Dead Mammery [sic] record or the Buffalo Springfield or that Double ELP. They were done by my college pal Malcolm.

I don’t ever remember scratching out a stamper number, but I do know that some of my records had numbers changed. I had a series of different partners and pressed records in six different plants and oftentimes the same record would be given a new title and perhaps that’s why some of my stamper numbers got changed.”

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Stewart R Net Wht altStewart R Net Wht alt 1

As can be seen in the detail above, the title “Performance”is quoted here, leading me to believe that the TMOQ version came out first. Also “Love In Vain” is correctly titled here, while it is listed as “It’s All Over Now” on the insert sheets for Performance.

Stewart R Net Wht 034 Ditto

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TMOQ 1865:

Dylan Troubl Trouba 1865

Flamin Groovies Live Roxy

Rated “Exs” in Hot Wacks, probably the easiest to find album in the 500 series. 

K&S records selected this release for a re-pressing from the original plates on blue wax, limited to 200 copies, ca. 1978. Due to their usual shipping problems (I assume they were shipped to the US), most of them never made it and this is a very rare title.

Flamin Groovies Roxy

Flamin Groovies Roxy disc

One copy sold in late 2007 for $329; the above one failed to find a buyer at $260 in July of 2013.

Flamin Groovies No Candy big

Side 1: She Said Yeah/ Let The Boy Rock ‘N’ Roll/ House Of Blue Light/ Lover Not A Fighter/ Please Please Me/ Please Please Girl/ Ups And Downs
Side 2: Shake Some Action/ I Wanna Be Your Man/ Don’t Lie To Me/ I Can’t Hide/ Miss Amanda Jones/ Hey Hey Hey

BOOTLEG(S) OF THE WEEK!: The Flamin’ Groovies-NO CANDY (ZAP)

Now that the weather is getting warmer and the sun shinier I feel it safe to once again take a trip down into the basement and mingle with my vinyl friends (who have given me more hours of downright happiness and pleasure than any of my real flesh and bone ones ever have!). And since I just “happened to get hold of” a load of those great (once) clandestine bootleg albums that sure zone me back to the days of those long-gone outta-the-way budget record shops, I thought I’d make it a PROJECT to review for you each and every weekend a bootleg album (or Cee-Dee if the moment arrives) perhaps to reminisce about record buying adventures past or to further document a portion of a seventies/eighties-era piece of rockism that really hasn’t been discussed to the utmost. Naturally I’m only doing this mostly to help pad out these weekend posts and make ’em look a lot meatier than they have the past few weeks so don’t say I have an ulterior motive doin’ this!

Here are a couple oddities from the now-distant and much-missed (in some respects) seventies, Flamin’ Groovies bootlegs that weren’t put out by Skydog Records! Really, one would gander that only a Skydog or some other small specialty bootleg company would have dealt with a group the cult status of the Groovies, but it looks as if the big timers in the underground biz took a shine to our San Franciscan heroes as well. The first offering up for today, NO CANDY, was released by the “Ze Anonym Plattenspieler” label who I guess fell for the SHAKE SOME ACTION album a lot harder than the rest of the music buying populace. I mean, why else would they issue this live recording from August of 1976 featuring our heroes in the middle of a grueling tour kicking out the jams for a rather rabid and appreciative audience when they could have used the vinyl cranking out yet another nth-generation Beatles platter? Sound quality is good enough mid-seventies cassette job about as clear as many of the similar items that were cluttering up the bootleg bins back in the day, while the performance is, er, action-packed as well with the Groovies at the outset of their “power pop” period bridging the energy of the pre-hippie sixties with the budding new underground that somehow caught everyone by surprise during those hard-thrust times. Funny, but I don’t recall seeing this one in any of the bootleg bins or catalogs of the day. My guess is that this was so desired that it actually sold out before I could get to the store.

[Source: BLOG TO COMM]

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I find this a bit puzzling, a band I had never even heard off, no hits, no radio play, yet bootleggers obviously liked these guys enough to take the financial risk (there is a Wizardo title – LIVE AT THE ROXY – as well). On the other hand, a band like America’s finest prog-rock group, Kansas, who were fairly big by 1976, never had a vinyl bootleg out. It is interesting how bootleggers had an influence on tastes and artist visibility that way.

“The formation of TAKRL also marked a shift in the scope of artists who could be bootlegged. Dub had kept to the ‘old guard’. Though Ken’s love of Dylan meant that he monopolized American Dylan bootleg product throughout the seventies, his partners were much more willing to test ‘new’ markets. TAKRL was responsible for some of the most unusual artists to be bootlegged in the vinyl era – everybody from Mott the Hoople, Procul harum and The Bonzo Dog (Doo Dah) band to Gentle Giant, Sparks and a particularly inspired compendium of quips from Marx Brothers’ movies, Groucho Marx’s I Never Kissed an Ugly Woman. Though TAKRL’s experiments’ were not always successful, aesthetically or commercially, only they were issuing something other than standard bootleg fodder, even coming up with a handful of superb radio broadcasts of two of America’s best new live acts – the Patti Smith Group and Little Feat. […] By this point, TAKRL could not contain all the product Ken wanted on the streets. HHCER, TKFWM and SODD all took on some of the burden [I really would not have worded it like that], soon folowed by Flat Records […], but it was still not enough. [Heylin, Bootleg pp 107-108]

“Ken’s multiple labels were not simply a ruse to confuse the authorities. Dr. ‘Telly’ Phone was not entirely convinced about the sheer scale of product being churned out. The doctor and Ken did not always see eye to eye about what exactly they should be putting out. Indeed it was a disagreement over content that resulted in the formation of The Kornyphone Records for the Working Man. David [the “Doctor”?] was not enamoured by Paul McCartney in any post-Beatles incarnation, nor by any new American pretenders like Aerosmith, Bachman Turner Overdrive or Lynyrd Skynyrd. If SODD was a bona-fide TAKRL spin-off, and HHCER was phased out as TAKRL went into overdrive, ZAP and Flat – both started in 1976 – were clearly intended by Ken as alternatives to TAKRL. The tension between Ken’s workaholic methods (and occasional dubious quality standards) and someone like the Doctor, committed to ‘approving’ material for ‘his’ label, was bound to lead to a permanent rift.” [Heylin, Bootleg, pp 110-111]