Audifön ’78/9 series: Cheap Trick ’78 CALIFORNIA MAN’ / DAVID BOWIE ‘LIVE IN STOCKHOLM 79′ / THE CARS ’78 (Live)’ / ‘BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN 78’

ACR 16

Cheap Trick 78 CM

Also available with blank white labels but mostly found with a white and a yellow label with side markings. A large number must have been pressed as the bootleg is very easy to find up to this day, even sealed copies.

Cheap Trick CM

Cheap Trick 78 CM b

Sides 1 – 3: WBCN broadcast of an edited performance from the Paradise in Boston on 10 June 1978; side 4: KBFH broadcast of an excerpt from the Palladium in New York on 22 September 1978 – mislabeled as coming from the Bottom Line in NY

Side 1:  Hello There – Come On, Come On (4:00)  / Stiff Competition  (4:21) / On Top Of The World (5:50)  / Guitar Solo  (2:29)  / Big Eyes  (3:04) / High Roller  (4:54)                                                         Side 2:    Clock Strikes Ten  (4:48) / Need Your Love  (8:13) /  Southern Girls  (3:49)                       Side 3:    Surrender  (5:59)  /  California Man  (4:02)  /  Goodnight Now  – Bun E. Carlos drum solo (3:23) / Auf Wiedersehen  (4:45) 

Quality: Muddy sounding FM broadcast, perhaps 3rd generation or higher, perhaps not well recorded in the first place. The only alternative source I have ever found was torrented on dime in August of 2007.

Side 4:  Hello There (1:44) / Southern Girls  (3:33)  / Need Your Love  (10:13)  / California Man  (4:13)  / Goodnight Now  (2:12)    

Quality: Excellent stereo recording, mix favors drums and Robin Zander’s rhythm guitar and is somewhat heavy on the treble and bass deficient. Nice overall room ambiance and audience mix Overall, I like this almost better than the Budokan mix. Love the drum sound and certain details like the ‘pick hitting strings sound’ at the start of “California Man”. For decades I had hopes that we would get a complete recording but it seems that will never happen as the master was not kept after the edit was assembled.

CT Paradise Boston '78

wolfgangsvault.com released the tape source with two additional songs (“Big Eyes” & “Clock Strikes Ten”) but labeled it at first as being from 1977. The following shows how the correct date and venue was found:

  • simonc | Sunday, November 01, 2009 | 6:47 am

must be just about the only ct concert edit that doesn’t have either surrender or iwytwm. still great though.

  • spinalcrackerbox | Sunday, November 01, 2009 | 11:00 am

simonc, this is because these are only excerpts and not the whole show. This first appeared on side 4 of the vinyl boot ‘California Man ’78’ and I loved it back then and wished we’d get the whole show one day. 30 years later, we got 2 more songs :-). At this rate I have to live a really long life, lol. Funnily, this is the only band on this website where we are always promised a new recording – this is the second time now, and we are always given the one we’ve already had. At least it’s a great one. The Bottom Line had 400 seats. For those who doubt this was recorded there, all shows that were recorded there have a similar ambiance. Check them out. Compare this, for example, to the two Peter Gabriel shows recorded a few months later on October 4th and you will agree that this is indeed the same venue.

  • spinalcrackerbox | Sunday, November 01, 2009 | 1:38 pm

And since I’m feeling like a detail freak tonight, I found the setlist for the NY, Palladium, 11/12/77 show – in case the Vault finds it after all: 1. HELLO THERE 2.COME ON, COME ON 3. ELO KIDDIES 4. SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE 5. BIG EYES 6. SOUTHERN GIRLS 7. DOWNED 8. MRS. HENRY 9. GOONIGHT NOW 10. CLOCK STRIKES TEN

  • spinalcrackerbox | Tuesday, November 03, 2009 | 11:46 am

Dear Wolfgangsvault, the correct venue is: The Bottom Line, New York & the correct date is still June 12, 1978

  • Dopeburger | Wednesday, November 04, 2009 | 11:26 am

Hey spinalcrackerbox, thanks for the input. We originally listed this show under the date/venue you suggest but, based on the audio, we decided this show could not have been recorded at the Bottom Line…the crowd noise, announcer, and Zander’s mic all indicate otherwise. Also, I believe we found out why this set was often mislabeled as the BL — it was broadcast with a BL Rockpile show and was so mistakenly assumed to have also been recorded there. Because they thank NYC, we narrowed it down to the Palladium in 77 or 78 and, thanks to recent help pinpointing this set as taking place in ’78, we’ve updated the date from ’77. It’s been a long, strange trip, but we’re pretty confident we’ve gotten to the bottom of this. thanks, pete

  • spinalcrackerbox | Sunday, November 22, 2009 | 2:59 am

Hi Pete, thanks for the message. I had always assumed that the original venue and date was correct and really hear a similar room feel compared to other BL recordings but I stand corrected. Have you ever found the rest of this show as obviously we have only selection of the full set here with many songs missing in between?
This is perhaps my favourite ever live recording, despite a lack of bass.

  • spinalcrackerbox | Sunday, November 22, 2009 | 4:05 am

Just to round out things, here’s the setlist for their Passaic, NJ show recorded in early December of ’78 (mostly listed as the 8th, also as the 5th – we only know for sure that CT played Calderone Hall in Hempstead, NY on the 9th as there is a ticket stub for this): 01 Hello There
02. Come On Come On
03. Stiff Competition
04. On Top Of The World
05. Guitar Solo
06. Big Eyes
07. Ain’t That A Shame
08. Southern Girls
09. Need Your Love
10. I Want You To Want Me
11. California Man
12. Surrender
13. Goodnight Now
14. Heaven Tonight.
15. Auf Wiedersehen
16. Clock Strikes Ten

  • Anonymous | Monday, November 23, 2009 | 11:01 am

spinal,

Is it possible CT only played seven songs that night since thye were opening for The Cars? The Cars have a full show from the Palladium that same night. Seven songs still seems like a paltry set, but I just thought I’d throw that out there.

  • spinalcrackerbox | Sunday, December 13, 2009 | 5:51 am

Regarding CT only playing 7 songs and The Cars actually headlining: a.) I hear cuts between some songs: between 1. and 2. and 2. into 3. at least. b.) the ticket stub says:
Cheap Trick with The Cars – The Palladium (New York, NY) – September 22, 1978
So either it was a double bill or The Cars opened for CT but not the other way around.

  • spinalcrackerbox | Sunday, December 13, 2009 | 7:05 am

One more point to support my claim that this is not the complete show. CT’s setlist didn’t change much and in those early years “Come On, Come On” ALWAYS followed “Hello There”. They were more like a medley than two separate songs.

http://www.concertvault.com/cheap-trick/palladium-september-22-1978.html

Footage from the after show party at the Palladium.

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78 California Man was produced at the same time in 1979 as the Springsteen title Bruce Springsteen ’78 ACR 61. Copies of the CT title went out that contained one disc from the Springsteen set. I know, as I was one of the unlucky recipients of just such a set, ordered via the Pied Piper Catalog from Chapel Hill, NC. They did recall and exchange the sets though. Their next catalog talked about how they had left the running of the business to someone else, who hadn’t done such a good job, but now the real Pied Piper was back. Hmm, were they assembling albums as well? …  Funny that I still remember that but have forgotten infinitely more important details of my past life.

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ACR 25

Bowie Live in Stockholm

DAVID BOWIE not in Stockholm and not in 1979: Gothenburg, Sweden 4 June, 1978

Unfortunately incomplete but with excellent audio quality, another great Bowie bootleg from Vickie Vinyl. “Warszawa” mislabeled as “Secret Life of Arabia” and “Sense of Doubt” present but not listed and neither listed nor present are the encores of the last three songs.

Complete concert set:

01. Warszawa
02. Heroes
03. What In The World
04. Be My Wife
05. The Jean Genie
06. Blackout
07. Sense Of Doubt
08. Speed Of Life
09. Breaking Glass
10. Fame
11. Beauty And The Beast
12. Five Years
13. Soul Love
14. Star
15. Hang On To Yourself
16. Ziggy Stardust
17. Suffragette City
18. Art Decade
19. Alabama Song
20. Station To Station
21. Stay
22. TVC 15
23. Rebel Rebel

 

Bowie Stockholm 79 b

Overstock copies of disc 1 supposedly exist with an insert called Live In Gothenburg but I did not find another image for this other than the small thumb nail on Bassmann’s Bowie bootlegs page.

In 1983, the 1980’s GLC label reissued this title with a corrected date:

Bowie Stockholm 78

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ACR 52

Cars 78Cars 78 b

I do believe that the same venue mis-identification issue applies here that we saw on 78 CALIFORNIA MAN : The Bottom line tracks are actually from the New York Palladium, 22 September 1978 (this recording is also available at wolfgangsvault and with even more tracks than the CT recording (12)). The bad news is that the sound is not good on either side of this album. The worst part of 1970’s bootlegging was the general lack of care applied to the mastering part, to release mediocre and azimuth misaligned material when that was not really necessary.

Side 1 (NY Palladium):

The Good Times Roll / My Best Friends Girl  / Since I Held You  / Just What I Needed  / You’re All I’ve Got Tonight   

Compare here: http://www.concertvault.com/the-cars/palladium-september-22-1978.html

If you were interested in this show, you had made a much better choice picking up 59 STUDE’ (THE BACKSEAT ) on Excitable Recordworks, which had more songs and sounded much better too.

Side 2: (Boston Paradise Theater, 01 July 1978 – Suicide & The Cars, broadcast on WBCN):

Bye Bye Love  / The Nights Fast  / I’m In Touch with Your World  / Moving In Stereo  / All Mixed Up

Original set list:

01 intro 2:00
02 Let the Good Times Roll 3:48
03 Bye Bye Love 4:30
04 Night Spots 4:27 (announced as a “new one”)
05 My Best Friend’s Girl 4:00
06 Moving In Stereo 5:04
07 In Touch With Your World 4:00
08 Take What You Want 4:32
09 They Won’t See You [?] 4:26
10 You’re All I’ve Got Tonight 4:16
11 Just What I Needed 3:46
encore break 1:14
12 Doncha Stop 3:26
13 encore break 0:49
14 Hotel Queenie 3:16

total time: 53:42

This bootleg has it’s own in depth review page here: http://badcatrecords.com/BadCat/CARS.htm

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ACR 61

Springsteen 78 xSpringsteen 78 b

Live broadcast from the Capitol Theater in Passaic, NJ – 19 September 1978. Misidentified city on the back cover – was this done intentionally to create an apparently different product from the Piece De Resistance box?

This is a new master, not just two of the Piece De Resistance discs sold in a new sleeve. I wonder which of the two came out first? Unfortunately there are no dates given on the brucespringsteen.it site.

Side 1: Badlands / Streets Of Fire / Independence Day / Promised Land
Side 2: Racing In The Streets / Thunder Road / Meeting Across The River / Because The Night
Side 3: Kitty’s Back / Not Fade Away – She’s The One
Side 4: Backstreets / Rosalita

Springsteen 78 lbls

More individualized Ruthless Rhymes labels but who is Bruce “Sprinsteen”?

From brucespringsteen.it:

Two different pressings may be spotted looking at the matrix on the records:
Some have ACR 16 CHEAP-A // ACR 16-B // ARC 61-C Bruce // ACR 61-D
Others have ACR 61-A // ACR 61-B BRUCE // ARC 61-C BRUCE // ACR 61-D

Springsteen 78

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21 comments
  1. Andrew Molloy said:

    Yep, this great album sure was ubiquitous back then. I can think of a couple of old friends who owned no other bootlegs but had this. Good old Pied Piper. Did Still Rare become Pied Piper? They were both out of Chapel Hill, I think. They were very patient dealing with a clued-out 12-year -old when I started ordering from them in ’77 (Closet Keepers by Elton first lp ordered).

  2. John said:

    strange to see the Ruthless label with printed songs, the ACR label’s name and the band’s name….homemade?

  3. Woodstock said:

    I once met Bun E Carlos and asked him to sign this, he refused saying that they didn’t do that since it was like endorsing bootlegs. He confided that he was a huge bootleg fan and had a huge collection of classic TMOQ Dylan, Beatles etc. then in the late 90s started his own basement label for Cheap Trick rarities which now is apparently in litigation with the band. Funny how that works…

    • John said:

      😉

    • The guy who ran Pied Piper (and the Cream of The Crop label) wrote to me in an email: “By the way a lot of stuff I did was actually approved by the groups and their management and I would pay a fee – including some of the Cheap Trick stuff .” I have to say that I do not really believe this looking at the finished products. CT management was happy with the mediocre sound of the Boston Paradise broadcast? For sure they didn’t endorse the “Perfect Female Body” LP. From an artist/management point of view they must loathe most bootlegs in terms of audio quality and loss of control over outtakes, etc.

  4. I know someone who owns a Led Zep vinyl boot that has Bun E’s name on it and I own the 6 rare “Bun E.s Bargain Basement Bootlegs” CDs that were released 10 – 13 years ago. Yes, the other members of CT and Bun E are now in litigation regarding his status as an official band member. On top of that, there is also a law suit by the band’s manager.

    • John said:

      🙂

  5. Yesdays said:

    How sad. I’ve always thought bands like Grateful Dead and U2 had the right idea. Allow taping sections at your live performances ….or do a Frank Zappa and “beat the boots”

  6. Mick said:

    Hi

    I too purchased a number of Boots from Pied Piper in North Carolina, it was a great source of rare LP’s, I picked up Cars/Patti Smith/Neil Young/Led Zepp – Mudslide on RED vinyl and others I can’t remember…Gone now tho’ – Both the records and Pied Pier sadly…Old memeories indeed.

  7. Mick said:

    From memory, the sleeve just had “Mudslide” stamped on a plain white cover and the record labels had a large black #1 on a white label and large black #2 on a white label. Very basic but the sound quality was very good!

    • Unless you were sold a TMOQ original, this might have been the BRR r004 reissue with the Cobra symbol?

      • Mick said:

        Not sure, it was so long ago..

        I was just stunned at the time to see a colored vinyl LP as I had only just started buying records (boots) and the ones I had bought were all on black vinyl, so it was a nice surprise to get soemthing unusual.

    • In the early 80’s, I was really into the colored vinyl pressings – should have kept those, really.

  8. Mick said:

    Just been having a re-think re the LZ “Mudslide” LP.

    I think it was on the Mushroom label and actually didn’t have the large #1 & #2 labels as I recalled with my frazzled memeory bank…. It was however, definately on red vinyl. I assume fairly rare?

  9. paul matley said:

    hi there I have a copy of the overstocked live in gothenburg with insert album

  10. The Bowie live in Stockholm LP with the insert cover was made/pressed by a different person than the one who made the LP with the original color cover and that original person was not Vicki Vinyl

    A number of different people put records out using those labels.
    e.g. one of the pressings of Dylan’s Life Sentence also used Ruthless Rhymes labels and it too was not a vicki vinyl
    record and not the same person who put out Bowie live in Stockholm with the color cover or the same person who put
    out the one with the insert cover. So, you can’t assume because a particular label was used that it is made by the person
    who was commonly associated with that label.

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